"You're right. It's this Tony-the-begging-dog/Ziva-the-tease-with-the-bone thing that bugs me too.

It's all done to tease the pubescent-teens (particularly the girls) but for series-watchers/analysts like me, it's quite a bore.

Early Tiva was when Tony was the king-pin, and Ziva was trying to prove herself worthy (to Tony, we all knew she was a better agent)."

"I didn't like it much, the case was not that interesting to me , I don't like Tiva moments and I hated the steal McGee's identity again. It seemed particularly stupid to have that (again) just after we were told that they can work at night (and we have seen them numerous times working odd hours) . I know they like to humiliate McGee and tell us it is fun but the kid should have been prosecuted not rewarded. I know this is not the real world but for once , just once couldn't McGee be angry that crap always happen to him. Why can't anything good happen to the guys? "

"I didn't like it much, the case was not that interesting to me , I don't like Tiva moments and I hated the steal McGee's identity again. It seemed particularly stupid to have that (again) just after we were told that they can work at night (and we have seen them numerous times working odd hours) . I know they like to humiliate McGee and tell us it is fun but the kid should have been prosecuted not rewarded. I know this is not the real world but for once , just once couldn't McGee be angry that crap always happen to him. Why can't anything good happen to the guys? "

"In a way yes but at least you didn't have McGee commenting on how good it was for Tony to have been assaulted by Ziva (and then McGee fans saying how great and helping McGee was).
I think that it was what bothered me both : the kid stealing 10 grands from him and then Tony rewarding him was supposed to be seen as a good thing for McGee."

"To me Tony should have to answer that call as McGee should have answered him in GP. I think that the author used this ''plot'' again, just to give Tony a small revenge (silly) as she used McGee's money stolen from his bank account again (second or third times? I do not remember). jmo
A lack of fantasy?! "

"I think Tony not answering was like McGee not answering, sort of a silly revenge thing. Rose what do you mean by "as she used McGee's money stolen from his bank account again" I don't know what you are talking about."

"And the sad thing for me, speaking as a pro-Tiva, is that I've become less and less enamored with it, for just that reason. Was I the only one who saw that Tony looked like he was about to cry when he mentioned being a pool shark in the 90's, and Ziva laughed and made it quite clear it was because she felt he was "old"? I mean, the guy is already going through a life crisis, and obviously depressed about aging some. So why would Ziva find it "amusing" to laugh at his age? Just confuses me and makes me feel very "Team Tony" at the moment."

"And the sad thing for me, speaking as a pro-Tiva, is that I've become less and less enamored with it, for just that reason. Was I the only one who saw that Tony looked like he was about to cry when he mentioned being a pool shark in the 90's, and Ziva laughed and made it quite clear it was because she felt he was "old"? I mean, the guy is already going through a life crisis, and obviously depressed about aging some. So why would Ziva find it "amusing" to laugh at his age? Just confuses me and makes me feel very "Team Tony" at the moment."