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cecy_DiNozzo	63. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:33 PM EDT Wow! Again, wow! This episode was just amazing. First of all, baseball! That’s my second favorite sport so the guys talking about it over and over again was great. Loved the scene in which Tony & McGee were watching Ziva while she was undercover and Tony said that the Mossad Ziva would be wilder and McGee told him that she’d changed. And Tony says that she wasn’t the Ziva that he’d shared bed with (those weren’t his exact words, okay?) and McGee says that they were only pretending and Tony just clears his throat <3 Speaking about Tony and clearing throats, oh my God, he was hilarious when he was trying to talk and he couldn’t even finish the sentences right because of his sore throat. LOL. Ziva wanting to stop Kristin from getting mad at her dad was just so sweet, she obviously cares about people more than she did before. Gonna quote our Israeli chick here: “Fathers…sometimes…make mistakes. Mistakes that…need a lot of forgiving”. Fantastic line. The moment she said it I inmediately thought of Eli David and asked myself ‘has she forgiven him for everything he did to her?’ and I’m so eager to know the answer. And if you analyze the phrase, well you don’t have to analyze it, you’ll notice that what it says it’s completely true. Fathers can make you angry for something insignificant and probably, that’s their mistake, not ours; love the quote. Ziva pushing Tony to the ground when the bomb exploded and the smile and little conversation they shared made me jump in glee. Just awesome. Tiva <3. Last but not least, the last Gibbs/Ziva father-daughter throwing the baseball ball scene was lovely. It’s one of my fave scenes of the two. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
tara_persad	64. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:33 PM EDT I would really like to know why lately the writers haven't let anyone besides Gibbs visit Abby?!?! In almost all episodes since season 1, episode 1 the team every member of the team goes and visit Abby!! :( Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tara_persad	65. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:34 PM EDT "Regarding Tiva...I actually think they are angling towards getting them together... And I'm neither really pro Tiva nor anti Tiva, but if done right (and I emphasise that point btw) I think it could be good. If however they make a sows ear of it...ugh " I don't care if they get them together, but if they do it, I hope they do it right. And if they should break up, I hope they remain close friends. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
weatherlywatcher49	66. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:36 PM EDT "i think that somalia has definitely influenced the way she views forgiveness. the team forgave her for the whole rivkin situation and still went to save her. though in the beginning/throughout season 7, she remained adement about her father and not wanting anything to do with him, clearly now she has at least been thinking about it. she really seemed to identify with the daughter, kristen, and i think that she may give him another chance. personally, i wish she wouldn't, but that might be where the story's headed. is supposed to cause some tension for ziva, so maybe she won't forgive him after all. " Or maybe she is jealous. Ziva grew up almost all her life working for her father - she knows how ruthless he can be - even with his children. After all, he did order her to kill Ari to gain Gibbs' trust and yet Ziva still spoke to him and loved him. Did she think she was more special or something? That he would not do the same to her if he had a mission to achieve? She had to know - without Gibbs telling her - that her father was a bad man. She may have tried to ignore it, but it was there. I am sure she was very hurt by his actions - who wouldn't be? But because of her emotions, Ziva let herself be manipulated in Israel. Not totally her fault, but we all know that Ziva does not tolerate weakness - not even when in her eyes, it's she who is weak. I am sure that there is a part of her that blames herself for at least part of what happened. And there's a part of her that remembers her father teaching her baseball when she was a child, which shows that they did have some good times together. Those two parts may totally override the part of her that thinks logically. Whether Ziva forgives her father or not, I am sure that if he is actually in America and she sees him in those episodes, the scenes between the two will be very powerful and emotional. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
weatherlywatcher49	67. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:38 PM EDT "Someone mentioned about something said in Boxed in that suggest that Tony and Ziva didn't sleep together, but remember that was many years ago. And tonight's episode sort of over ride what was said in boxed in which suggest that maybe they really did sleep together. But personally, I think they slept together. Haha, who knows, maybe they did sleep together in Paris :D" Paris, maybe but I think Tony was just messing with McGee like he always does. I hope the writers do not change what they have written - too many fans remember what was said whether it was last year or many years ago. We're fanatics, lol - so they need to keep their stories straight. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
weatherlywatcher49	68. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:40 PM EDT "well she's been really...off i think she just needs a few other people coming to her lab like Tim, Tony, and Ziva rather than just Gibbs u know what i mean?" Yeah, as much as Abby and I love Gibbs, just seeing him every time instead of all of them or different ones each time would be kind of lonely. Especially since Abby has a different relationship with each one of them. Gibbs is like her father, Ziva is like the best friend she can talk girl stuff with, Tony is the big brother and McGee is the past love that she still cares about. Abby is ready for some variety, lol. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tara_persad	69. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:43 PM EDT "Paris, maybe but I think Tony was just messing with McGee like he always does. I hope the writers do not change what they have written - too many fans remember what was said whether it was last year or many years ago. We're fanatics, lol - so they need to keep their stories straight." So far most people seem to think that they slept together in Undercovers. Plus Tony didn't answer McGee!!!! He could have said no!!! So that's why I think that they did sleep together. What do you think of the baseball scene, some think it was natural of Ziva the way she asked Gibbs to play and the way Gibbs responded. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
McAbbyGirl4Eva	70. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:45 PM EDT ok best episode ever this season!!! any doubts i had about S8 have completely dissolved!!! this episode was very well rounded and humorous and it had a great storyline 2! even the Tiva was sweet (and thats coming from a not so huge Tiva fan :)) i liked how they brought stuff back form the earlier seasons like "Under Covers" and "Boxed In" and Tony losing his voice that was classic!!! deffinitely a great episode Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
tara_persad	71. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:50 PM EDT "ok best episode ever this season!!! any doubts i had about S8 have completely dissolved!!! this episode was very well rounded and humorous and it had a great storyline 2! even the Tiva was sweet (and thats coming from a not so huge Tiva fan :)) i liked how they brought stuff back form the earlier seasons like "Under Covers" and "Boxed In" and Tony losing his voice that was classic!!! deffinitely a great episode" McAbby, do you think that Tony and Ziva really did sleep in Undercovers? I can't remember you mentioned anything about that........ Post reply Do you find this valuable?
weatherlywatcher49	72. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:53 PM EDT "I agree with you what was said in Boxed In could go either way and they could have been talking about something else for all we know. Also I said previously; to me, what was said in this episode over rides what was said in Boxed In :D" Boxed in was pretty clear. Tony: Your life would have had more meaning if you had slept with me. Ziva: If you had anything else on your mind, perhaps I would have. Tony: Really? Ziva: No. It was not subtle but very clear that they did not sleep together when they were undercover. And if the writers start writing whatever they want to and overriding history on the show, there are going to be problems. The NCIS fans remember everything - remember when Tony said he was 8 when his mother died in "Flesh and Blood?" All the fans were yelling, "No! Tony said his mother dressed him in sailor suits until he was 10! They messed up!" Then there was the debate on the changing windows that the bullet went through in Hernandez' truck. If I were an NCIS writer and was reading this stuff, I would make sure that what I wrote went along with the history of the show. Some shows may get away with doing that - but NCIS fans catch them every time, lol. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
prophetess01	73. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:54 PM EDT Tony loves to keep Tim guessing. He also loves to shock Tim. They are so very funny. The way Ziva keeps referring to her dad is leading us up to the episodes with Eli. Ziva fans will never like or trust Eli after the Somalia trip. Should the writers pull that off that would even be bigger than turning M.Allison Hart into a good guy. The next episode must be the one with a lot of Abby (according to the previews). I really loved this episode, but I'm also looking forward to next week. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
mellotto	74. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:55 PM EDT "I agree with you what was said in Boxed In could go either way and they could have been talking about something else for all we know. Also I said previously; to me, what was said in this episode over rides what was said in Boxed In :D" Tony said this wasnt the Ziva he shared a bed with 5 years ago and Tim assumed he was talking about the undercover assignment. I dont think he was necessarily. Maybe he was talking about after that - when Gibbs went to Mexico & those photographs were taken by Mossad (in Shalom). That would be approximately 5 years ago as well. It has already been in canon twice that they didnt sleep together in Undercovers - once in Boxed In and the other when Ziva got behind Tony at his desk & teased him (cant remember which ep - season 4 I think). Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
McAbbyGirl4Eva	75. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:56 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 19 2010, 11:07 PM EDT "McAbby, do you think that Tony and Ziva really did sleep in Undercovers? I can't remember you mentioned anything about that........" hmm...tricky question but i think i'm gonna have to go with "no". Ithink Tony was just messing with McGee just like in "Jet Lag"...plus i do think that Tony and Ziva do care about each other so much they wouldnt reduce their freindship to a "friends with benefits" situation...but then again this was also 3d season and they really didnt know eachother that well so im really not sure :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
prophetess01	76. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 10:57 PM EDT "Boxed in was pretty clear. Tony: Your life would have had more meaning if you had slept with me. Ziva: If you had anything else on your mind, perhaps I would have. Tony: Really? Ziva: No. It was not subtle but very clear that they did not sleep together when they were undercover. And if the writers start writing whatever they want to and overriding history on the show, there are going to be problems. The NCIS fans remember everything - remember when Tony said he was 8 when his mother died in "Flesh and Blood?" All the fans were yelling, "No! Tony said his mother dressed him in sailor suits until he was 10! They messed up!" Then there was the debate on the changing windows that the bullet went through in Hernandez' truck. If I were an NCIS writer and was reading this stuff, I would make sure that what I wrote went along with the history of the show. Some shows may get away with doing that - but NCIS fans catch them every time, lol." You are exactly right. NCIS fans should be allowed to preview the episode before it airs. I would love to have that job. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
tara_persad	77. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 11:01 PM EDT "Boxed in was pretty clear. Tony: Your life would have had more meaning if you had slept with me. Ziva: If you had anything else on your mind, perhaps I would have. Tony: Really? Ziva: No. It was not subtle but very clear that they did not sleep together when they were undercover. And if the writers start writing whatever they want to and overriding history on the show, there are going to be problems. The NCIS fans remember everything - remember when Tony said he was 8 when his mother died in "Flesh and Blood?" All the fans were yelling, "No! Tony said his mother dressed him in sailor suits until he was 10! They messed up!" Then there was the debate on the changing windows that the bullet went through in Hernandez' truck. If I were an NCIS writer and was reading this stuff, I would make sure that what I wrote went along with the history of the show. Some shows may get away with doing that - but NCIS fans catch them every time, lol." I definitely remember the changing of the windows in which the bullet went through, I noticed it quickly. I also remember that about Tony being dresses as a sailor and what age Tony apparently was when his mom died. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mellotto	78. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 11:10 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 21 2010, 5:55 AM EDT "Tony loves to keep Tim guessing. He also loves to shock Tim. They are so very funny. The way Ziva keeps referring to her dad is leading us up to the episodes with Eli. Ziva fans will never like or trust Eli after the Somalia trip. Should the writers pull that off that would even be bigger than turning M.Allison Hart into a good guy. The next episode must be the one with a lot of Abby (according to the previews). I really loved this episode, but I'm also looking forward to next week. " You are so right. It would be very difficult to change Eli into a good guy now, but I wish there was a way. I really like Nouri and his character. If he really is a bad guy it will hopefully be addressed and resolved in the November eps. They shouldnt keep a 'bad guy' like that as head of Mossad, an ally agency to the US. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
weatherlywatcher49	79. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 11:11 PM EDT "You are exactly right. NCIS fans should be allowed to preview the episode before it airs. I would love to have that job. " They should have at least 10 or 15 NCIS fanatics, like ourselves, to watch each and every episode before it airs in order to make sure they are keeping history correct, lol. You and I would both gladly volunteer for the job, right? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
suejacken	80. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 11:14 PM EDT I loved this episode. Michael Weatherly is so funny. I liked the way Tony and McGee were talking about baseball in the beginning, Also really liked Ziva and Tony near the end. It was funny without sounding mean. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Det.Beckett	81. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 11:16 PM EDT "Boxed in was pretty clear. Tony: Your life would have had more meaning if you had slept with me. Ziva: If you had anything else on your mind, perhaps I would have. Tony: Really? Ziva: No. It was not subtle but very clear that they did not sleep together when they were undercover. And if the writers start writing whatever they want to and overriding history on the show, there are going to be problems. The NCIS fans remember everything - remember when Tony said he was 8 when his mother died in "Flesh and Blood?" All the fans were yelling, "No! Tony said his mother dressed him in sailor suits until he was 10! They messed up!" Then there was the debate on the changing windows that the bullet went through in Hernandez' truck. If I were an NCIS writer and was reading this stuff, I would make sure that what I wrote went along with the history of the show. Some shows may get away with doing that - but NCIS fans catch them every time, lol." Yes, Tony was definitely having a laugh at McGee's expense. This is like the third or fourth time Tim has wondered about them and I think the whole idea of Tony and Ziva getting along is kind of scary for him. Think about it, when they're picking on each they aren't picking on him...I always think back to the scene in "Untouchable" where they recall supergluing McGee to his keyboard...yes, much better to have Ziva on his side. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
tara_persad	82. RE: Discuss episode 8.05 Dead Air Here! Oct 19 2010, 11:19 PM EDT "They should have at least 10 or 15 NCIS fanatics, like ourselves, to watch each and every episode before it airs in order to make sure they are keeping history correct, lol. You and I would both gladly volunteer for the job, right?" I would too!!!! :( But I would have to become more of an NCIS fanatic and I gladly would :D Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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