"I do believe I've read something once or twice about the CIA knowing about the 9/11 attacks and the US government doing nothing about it. Isn't that the same thing, except making it even worse by being in their own backyard? And on a larger scale?

People can't really look down on Mossad for something like that when the CIA and US government did the same thing -- and got a lot more people killed for their efforts."

"I do believe I've read something once or twice about the CIA knowing about the 9/11 attacks and the US government doing nothing about it. Isn't that the same thing, except making it even worse by being in their own backyard? And on a larger scale?

People can't really look down on Mossad for something like that when the CIA and US government did the same thing -- and got a lot more people killed for their efforts."

"I've read and seen different material regarding the 9/11 attacks (ex. Fahrenheit 911, Loose Change, etc), and it makes for interesting conversation and debate but I'm not going to say outright that the US government and the CIA knew in advance there was to be a definite attack on the US or were directly or indirectly responsible for those acts of terrorism. You're entitled to your opinion but it's kinda out there for you to make that kind of statement without being definitive proof about US government or CIA involvement in 9/11."

"I believe that was what the 'increased presence' of Mossad in Somalia was about. Either they were hunting down the terrorist, or they were attempting to search for Ziva. Perhaps both, considering that they would have been together (assuming that Eli believed that she'd gotten in).

You have to remember that no one knew where the camp was. Even Ziva had to be guided there. Tony and McGee had to be CAPTURED to get there. So, we can assume that these terrorists were so well hidden that they weren't easily found -- I'd say that'd make a rescue mission (or even conformation of Ziva's death) rather difficult. And besides, can you honestly say that you'd expect someone who has been captured by terrorists to survive more than a week, at most? If I were Eli, I'd have accepted that she was dead and continued to try to find him, if for no other reason than to kill the sonuvab**** that killed my child.

You can't really blame a guy for assuming that his daughter is dead in circumstances like that. I know I would have thought so, too.
and they were there to like clean up, make up the story of the boat going down in the strom, extracting malchi, and there other team mate, and like kinda wiping away there trace, so the camp wouldn't know they traced them there, so they wouldn't move on"

"Margy are you referring to the William Buckley abduction and murder?"