"Very good, Rosey and don't forget Ziva gave Gibbs an ultimatum, Him or Me. That's the surest way to lose an arguement.

You know how I feel about the Tiva thing - LOL. I think Tony and Ziva are more brother and sister or maybe just cugini. <G>"

"Thanks ! :) And remember ... Never , ever give Gibbs an ultimatum ! It's the worst idea of the world !
Cugini ? Very good or ... molto bravo ! Although , Tony and Ziva are very close cugini (cousins) !
About Tiva , I think they could have an affair in the firsts years of thier "partnership" , when Tony was a real womanizer and Ziva was a real tough Mossad officer , but now they know each other so well and too many things had happen between them . Some of these things were very bad !
In Season 2 ("Caught on Tape") , Kate asked Tony if he likes her . He said yes and she asked him why he's never tried hooking up her ... his answer was : "Because I know you" . I think he meant he couldn't play with her fellings , because he cared of her . To me this is the same situation that he's living with Ziva .
A TIVA love story would be very romantic and sweet , but (unluckly !) not realistic in NCIS world ! Sigh ... :( :( :( "

"Don't think so. I mean look where is his butting in her private life ended up before. Him shooting Rivking, Ziva staying behind because HE butted (is that even a word) in her private life. Tony means no harm you say, tell that to Rivkin. Tony shot him weither that was justified or not he was snooping into Ziva's private life and that made Ziva stay behind in Israel and thus resulting in her capture in Somalia. If he were to do that again he better make sure she knows that he does all these things because he LOVES her, he better be straight with her. I don't think it will come from her, she has enough on her plate he will have to make the first real big move but if he does it the same way he did with Rivkin she'll have him for breakfast, lunch and dinner. He better be telling her the truth."

"Sorry Nemi gotta disagree. Rivkin was a foreign assassin operating on US soil. He already interfered and compromised an NCIS LA op. Knowing there was a Ziva / Rivkin connection, Gibbs told Tony to stay on it. McGee did an ISP search on Rivkin that lead to Ziva's apartment. It's not a private life matter if Ziva is a possible mole handling an elusive foreign suspect who was told to leave the country. It's a professional concern."

"Don't think so. I mean look where is his butting in her private life ended up before. Him shooting Rivking, Ziva staying behind because HE butted (is that even a word) in her private life. Tony means no harm you say, tell that to Rivkin. Tony shot him weither that was justified or not he was snooping into Ziva's private life and that made Ziva stay behind in Israel and thus resulting in her capture in Somalia. If he were to do that again he better make sure she knows that he does all these things because he LOVES her, he better be straight with her. I don't think it will come from her, she has enough on her plate he will have to make the first real big move but if he does it the same way he did with Rivkin she'll have him for breakfast, lunch and dinner. He better be telling her the truth."

"My little Calabashe beat me to the punch, not to mention the fact that Rivkin killed an American Agent(accidental or not). And Probie, you know that's just the way DiNozzo is with the people closest to him. Also he already was jealous of Rivkin, but Rivkin's arrogance after being told to clock out by Macey,Gibbs, and DiNozzo made Tony dislike him that much more. And Ziva would have still covered for Rivkin either way DiNozzo handled it, respectfully or not. DiNozzo's a player, and he could see that Ziva was getting definitely played by Rivkin, as her partner and friend it was his duty to let her know what was going on and to check up on him, professionally. Some people you can handle with diplomacy and tact, others need a "helping" hand to convince them to your way of thinking. Clearly Rivkin was not going to let DiNozzo take him in, he had what was coming to him. I don't think DiNozzo did anything wrong even if he enjoyed it or not"

"I know what you are saying. but seriously do you really expect DiNozzo to anything otherwise? It's not in his nature, besides I really think Ziva would have done the same thing regardless of whatever course of action Tony what have done. I kind of blame Ziva now that I think of it, I mean you women know when a guy is interested in you or when is jealous, so Ziva could have handled the situation a lot better IMO, maybe Rivkin's death could have been avoided? I dunno maybe I'm just rambling please forgive me If I am =-)"