"My favourite ship is Gabby although many will throw their hands up in horror.

I think what gets my goat with the TIVA ship is that people really are so very obsessed with this particular one and many are quite aggressive towards those who disagree.

I understand the mechanics of ships but not the obsession combined with aggression, which is what I find among many TIVA shippers, although obviously not all will be like this there are a great many who are, particularly on the CBS forum and no doubt elsewhere too. I know a poll I did a few months back was considered here as "anti"TIVA and many people were for some reason offended, which is something I can't understand after all we all have our preferences, and in the end it's only a TV series however big a fan you are of it and the characters portrayed"

"hey! Don't be sorry for telling us your opinion. If anyone else doesn't understand that, even we love the characters, they only characters in a TV show, just fiction, they may need some medical advices, and I mean psychological advice!!!! I'm a big fan of Tony and Ziva and a Tiva shipper, but I can understand that there are choices that I don't agree, maybe some Gabby shippers!!, but I really respect them! Come on, Sorgiña, all the moderators are doing an amazing job! Keep working!!! I'm supporting you!!!"

"I agree that TIVA should remain a professional relationship with some sexual and personal tension to keep it interesting but ... and for those of against TIVA, bad news... I read the following at http://community.livejournal.com/spoilersforncis/56412.html - "Brennan says Tony (Michael Weatherly) and Ziva's (Cote de Pablo) relationship "will evolve rapidly" in the opener and then play out over the next three episodes. Will they finally seal the deal? "Yes, but I don't know when," he hedges. "It'll be very unexpected." And I believe it was mentioned in a different thread here on wetpaint too. This news is very disheartening, and I'm hoping it's a one time, extreme-in-the-moment kind of thing to satisfy those who want TIVA but at the same time not put the show in jeopardy by turning it into a love "thing." :)
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"Why does every TV show have to have a pairing and more importantly why does the 'pairing' have to suddenly over-shadow everything else?
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"Why does every TV show have to have a pairing and more importantly why does the 'pairing' have to suddenly over-shadow everything else?

Also, why does it have to be TIVA? Most of the TIVA action is based on longing looks, flirting and close physical contact. Well, let's look at Tony and Gibbs shall we? We have 6 seasons of looks between those two, so much so that you can honestly believe that the characters (as brilliantly played by Mark HArmon and Michael Weatherly) are having entire converstaions in a look that no one else is privy to. The head-slap; a wake up call or hiding in plain sight; everyone knows Gibbs slaps Tony but remember the 'atta boy' headslap/caress. Given the general publics attitude to alternate lifestyles two men in a para-military organization would be very circumspect so the looks, touches, sparring etc we see between Gibbs and Tony could translate to a romantic relationship as easily as the Looks etc between Tony and Ziva.

That almost all spoilers etc for season 7 concentrate on Tony and Ziva is the primary reason why NCIS is now refered to in some circles as "As the Bullpen turns" or "Days of our Dead Petty Officers".

I'd like to not be anti-TIVA, but the entitlement YELLING in some quarters about TIVA have actually pushed me to consider my position and it comes down to leave the shipping OUT of canon and let's us play with the ships we like in fanon."