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rkent36
rkent36
80. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 17 2009, 11:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2009, 11:28 PM EDT
"Good catch. It was most likely some of Joe Banks' people. Had she not given them the sign to move on, they would have tried (notice I said tried) to take her from DiNozzo and Ziva."
And Probie. Don't forget him. :)

Very interesting theory, mewofford. I totally didn't catch the "Keith" bit ... will have to watch it again to verify.

Which leads to the question: why? Why would he have assumed Vance's identity?
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le_bibliothecaire
le_bibliothecaire
81. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 17 2009, 11:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2009, 11:40 PM EDT
"If Vance is really Tyler than that means Tara is HIS sister, not the sister of the dead guy.
Did anyone else get that?

And I think when Vance first confronted her in the hotel room, she called him "Keith" which was Tyler's middle name.

Wow!
Talk about a big ol' can of worms!!"
I just went back and re-watched that part. She calls him "Teek." As in short for "T.K.?" And I felt she was leading up to revealing a different relationship to Vance when he was talking to her at NCIS. I was expecting her to reveal she was his sister or ex or something. Hmmm. Perhaps he switched names and pasts with his old trainer?
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Abbiefan1
Abbiefan1
82. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 17 2009, 11:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2009, 11:42 PM EDT
Yeah I sort of thought the same thing. I mean with the detached retna thing and all.
I totally want Gibbs to open that file. Odd that Vance let him keep it dontcha think?
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BureauBabe
BureauBabe
83. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 17 2009, 11:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2009, 11:46 PM EDT
"If Vance is really Tyler than that means Tara is HIS sister, not the sister of the dead guy.
Did anyone else get that?

And I think when Vance first confronted her in the hotel room, she called him "Keith" which was Tyler's middle name.

Wow!
Talk about a big ol' can of worms!!"
Just finished watching!! Vance is the really Tyler, omg. So the file that Gibbs got from CIA must be hot hot hot! The car is back, yes!! How many more episodes do we have, eck! Good night.
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le_bibliothecaire
le_bibliothecaire
84. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 17 2009, 11:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2009, 11:50 PM EDT
"I thought that was supposed to be irony - Cole shook her head in a negative manner, as if to warn off the people in the town car, but neither Tim nor Ziva noticed this because they were purely focused on the vehicle and not their principal. So I thought it was supposed to be a hint that Ziva DOESN'T catch everything 'cause she didn't see that Banks & Cole were "together" and Cole was saying "don't try to 'rescue' me; I'm okay." I didn't see it as her hinting at anything Tiva related 'cause she'd barely seen them interact at all."
I just re-watched that, too, and you could be right, but Ziva would not have seen Banks and Cole together to have observed them and no one, not even Vance, knew that she had married Banks. There would not have been any clues there for Ziva to have missed, except her shaking her head "no", but she couldn't see that without turning her back to the town car, which she would *not* have done having been told that they were out to get Cole. I just assumed, at first glance, that it was another not-so-subtle hint regarding Tony and Ziva not noticing each other, because she made several such comments. Definitely going to have to re-watch this ep uninterrupted and when I'm more observant.
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rkent36
rkent36
85. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 17 2009, 11:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2009, 11:54 PM EDT
"I just assumed, at first glance, that it was another not-so-subtle hint regarding Tony and Ziva not noticing each other, because she made several such comments. Definitely going to have to re-watch this ep uninterrupted and when I'm more observant."
Well, the reason I don't necessarily think that's the case is because Cole really didn't see Tony and Ziva interact much beyond that "I'm here to relieve" you moment and I find it difficult to believe that she would be able to pick up the "they're in angsty lurve" vibe from just that scene. Hence my assumption that it was just intended to show that Ziva wasn't infallible and thus, didn't realize Cole was simply signaling the people in the town car.

You could be right, I guess.
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gufis253
86. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 12:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 12:03 AM EDT
OMG! VANCE ISNT VANCE!!!!
gah i knew there was stuff wrong with him....i wish gibbs had opened that file.....grrr but obviously gibbs trusts him now because he didnt open the file......grrrrrrrrrr i hate being confused!!!

on a happier note....i think tony knows who he lovers now!!!!!
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CatherineYetive
CatherineYetive
87. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 12:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 12:24 AM EDT
Okay several things I loved about this epi: [because 86 replies takes too long to read]
---Gibbs has his car from heartland and this is the first time we get to see it again!
---Gibbs looks really happy in parts of this episode
---The headslaps are back!
---Tony opens up about his love life and the girl says "your answers are close to home" or something along those lines [tiva]

things i didn;t like:
----More questions created by vance episode than answered
----Barely any McGee moments
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rkent36
rkent36
88. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 12:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 12:45 AM EDT
"More questions created by vance episode than answered"
I'm okay with that providing they already have the answers figured out. I hate it when a show implies a master plan yet as the episodes air, it becomes categorically obvious to everyone watching that there ISN'T a plan and never was. (Yeah, Battlestar Galactica and Lost, I'm looking at the two of you.)
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le_bibliothecaire
le_bibliothecaire
89. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 12:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 12:53 AM EDT
"LOL I've been keeping a written list. Should I post it?"
Never, mind. There is a written list here. I wonder how long it has been here, since I looked for one once and never found it. I just now found it totally by mistake. It is listed as "Headslap Haven."
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windykat
windykat
90. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 2:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 3:02 AM EDT
I am now definitely going to have to rewatch the episode...I missed a very critical few minutes along the way. But I loved seeing the "Heartland" car back!

CBS.com usually uploads the new episode 12mn Pacific time. 3am Eastern.
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gibbsis2die4
gibbsis2die4
91. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 3:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 3:20 AM EDT
Does anyone know what Gibbs and Abby were signing to each other in the lab and then again in the elevator? I wish they would put in subtitles when either of them use sign language, so we could know what they are saying to each other! 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

mewofford
92. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 6:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 6:04 AM EDT
He had the credentials to move up in the world, Annapolis graduate, and marine background with the medical discharge. And like our Vance said, Tyler was always pushing him to do better in the world.

But really, who knows.
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mewofford
93. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 6:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 6:05 AM EDT
Teek?

That could be, for sure.
I watched the episode twice last night and thought it sounded like Keith but Teek is very similar!

Thanks.
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mewofford
94. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 6:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 6:06 AM EDT
Abbiefan1, odd and yet oddly honorable too...like he said, he's giving his future into Jethro's hands.

Being honest, as he can be, with that bulldog of a man.
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mewofford
95. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 6:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 6:09 AM EDT
rkent36

She didn't see them interact but she did talk to each of them on a one-to-one basis. Enough with Ziva that she showed Tara the picture of Rivkin. And certainly Tara had Tony's number from the git-go!

Actually, the way Tony reacted to her knowledgable scrutiny reminded me very much of the interaction between Grissom and Lady Heather on her first episode of CSI. No one likes to feel like their very most secrets are exposed so readily.
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mewofford
96. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 6:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 6:16 AM EDT
I really liked a lot of things about the episode too.

Loved the whole pitbull conversation between Vance and Gibbs. Man, how many time have I called Gibbs a bulldog in the years I've watched the show? Felt like vindication!! hehe

Loved Vance and his family. Obviously, no matter what else the man is or has done, he loves his family and they love him. And Gibbs saw that. It was why he was so relaxed.

It was interesting that Tony thinks of dating as brokering a deal and now, he can't close the deal (as in have sex). Daddy did leave his mark on the boy!

this episode left an impression in my mind of Tony and Ziva blundering around in the dark trying to find each other.

And with the headslaps was Jethro giving Tony permission to seek out Ziva' for "physical contact?" I mean Jethro said he knew, and Tony said "You know?" and then he said, "You know." That was the only thing I could think Gibbs meant!

Not real TIVA in this but lots of implied TIVA.
Good but highly frustrating.

Loved McGee's look in the car when Tara finds the wallet and realized there's a condom in it and starts talking about the expiration date. McGee has known all along.
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Trinichick1982
Trinichick1982
97. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 7:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 7:28 AM EDT
i missed the episode last night. nothing short of an emergency as you may imagine. anyway where can i go to watch the episode online? i am located in Trinidad in the Caribbean and some of the site are not allowing me to enter.
Please help me anybody
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BureauBabe
BureauBabe
98. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 8:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 8:25 AM EDT
"Does anyone know what Gibbs and Abby were signing to each other in the lab and then again in the elevator? I wish they would put in subtitles when either of them use sign language, so we could know what they are saying to each other!"
Try changing your TV settings, there is a closed caption option which on my tv gives more subtitles for closed caption and signing, used it for a CSI NY ep. that had a deaf family.
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BureauBabe
BureauBabe
99. RE: Discuss episode 6.18 "Knockout" here
Mar 18 2009, 8:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2009, 8:32 AM EDT
"i missed the episode last night. nothing short of an emergency as you may imagine. anyway where can i go to watch the episode online? i am located in Trinidad in the Caribbean and some of the site are not allowing me to enter.
Please help me anybody"
CBS has the episode on their site, can you get to them? I have it playing on my second computer.
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