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chateaurew |
40. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 12 2008, 4:23 PM EST
"Also wanted to add that I loved how Gibbs put up Langer's picture up on the wall of agents who had fallen in the line of duty at the end....it was like his own confimation that Langer was innocent and his suspicion of Lee."yes... that was really great.. its most definitely put to rest any suspicion he might still have about Langer. good seguay into the John Mellencamp tune as well. and also the fact that it was Remembrance Day yesterday... so it was a nice touch all the way around. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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ailgup |
41. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 12 2008, 4:41 PM EST
where was the bar gibbs he went to in the end is is it near their office? why does it have the pictures of the agents who died in action?
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chateaurew |
42. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 12 2008, 4:42 PM EST
"where was the bar gibbs he went to in the end is is it near their office? why does it have the pictures of the agents who died in action?"good question... I was about to ask that too. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
hoorooblue |
43. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 12 2008, 5:07 PM EST
"good question... I was about to ask that too."It has to be a regular enough haunt for Gibbs for the barman to note, somewhat surprised, that he is alone. Presumably it is an NCIS watering hole near the HQ, and sufficiently visited by NCIS agents for it to be their "home pub" and have the informal wall of honour. (like some pubs are for a particular footy team or cricket team). But it is not the swanky watering hole that the Giblets and Ducky prefer. It is an old school pub, with neon lights advertising stuff. And given that Gibbs has bourbon at home, we must assume it is a one-off device to allow Gibbs to show, not tell, that he is regretting not trusting his instincts over Langer. (and not doing a proper crime scence investigation of Langer's death which was a rather obvious lapse in procedure. When did Gibbs start taking one person's word as true, especially when it is the word of a lawyer?) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
MargyW |
44. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 12 2008, 5:28 PM EST
"It has to be a regular enough haunt for Gibbs for the barman to note, somewhat surprised, that he is alone. Presumably it is an NCIS watering hole near the HQ, and sufficiently visited by NCIS agents for it to be their "home pub" and have the informal wall of honour. (like some pubs are for a particular footy team or cricket team). But it is not the swanky watering hole that the Giblets and Ducky prefer. It is an old school pub, with neon lights advertising stuff. And given that Gibbs has bourbon at home, we must assume it is a one-off device to allow Gibbs to show, not tell, that he is regretting not trusting his instincts over Langer. (and not doing a proper crime scence investigation of Langer's death which was a rather obvious lapse in procedure. When did Gibbs start taking one person's word as true, especially when it is the word of a lawyer?)"Treating the shooting of Langer as a crime with crime scene procedurals would have been Vance's decision to make, as it took place in an NCIS building. Do you find this valuable? |
rinachi |
45. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 6:25 AM EST
"Also wanted to add that I loved how Gibbs put up Langer's picture up on the wall of agents who had fallen in the line of duty at the end....it was like his own confimation that Langer was innocent and his suspicion of Lee."I totally agree with toysr posts, both of them. I am also sure that Gibbs is on agent Lee and feels bad for Langer. And it was kind of cute and fatherly to see himself to Tony .... i liked that episode ... BUT where was Kate's picture on that wall??? 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
LadyMurder |
46. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 10:47 AM EST
"I totally agree with toysr posts, both of them. I am also sure that Gibbs is on agent Lee and feels bad for Langer. And it was kind of cute and fatherly to see himself to Tony .... i liked that episode ...Yes where was Kate's Pic on the wall...went back and re watched epi...and she was not on the wall....? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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chateaurew |
47. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 12:11 PM EST
"It has to be a regular enough haunt for Gibbs for the barman to note, somewhat surprised, that he is alone. Presumably it is an NCIS watering hole near the HQ, and sufficiently visited by NCIS agents for it to be their "home pub" and have the informal wall of honour. (like some pubs are for a particular footy team or cricket team). But it is not the swanky watering hole that the Giblets and Ducky prefer. It is an old school pub, with neon lights advertising stuff. And given that Gibbs has bourbon at home, we must assume it is a one-off device to allow Gibbs to show, not tell, that he is regretting not trusting his instincts over Langer. (and not doing a proper crime scence investigation of Langer's death which was a rather obvious lapse in procedure. When did Gibbs start taking one person's word as true, especially when it is the word of a lawyer?)"hoorooblue! I figured that this was a personal haunt of Gibbs... and maybe the Giblets aren't even in the loop about this place... I just hadn't seen it before, so I was wondering if this was a 'fixture" of the show or something new that has been added and perhaps just for this specific episode. Do you find this valuable? |
NCISlover161 |
48. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 12:15 PM EST
"Yes where was Kate's Pic on the wall...went back and re watched epi...and she was not on the wall....?"dunno? i thought that, the writers must have not thought it was relevent. They are different writers or producers from season 2. it was sweet with Cassidy though! Do you find this valuable? |
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chateaurew |
49. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 12:17 PM EST
"dunno? i thought that, the writers must have not thought it was relevent. They are different writers or producers from season 2. it was sweet with Cassidy though!"yes... it was.... at first I thought it was a picture of Kate...hmmmmm there's always a reason for everything Do you find this valuable? |
NCISgal4eva92 |
50. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 3:35 PM EST
"i know! the preview for next week looked AWESOME! and arresting Abby?????? I am counting the days til next week!Next week's episode looks great! Is it me or do they show Ziva hitting Tony in the face by accident? I liked the tie-in too and was happy to see Paula but why wasn't Kate's or Jenny's pic there? Do you find this valuable? |
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MargyW |
51. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 3:38 PM EST
"Next week's episode looks great! Is it me or do they show Ziva hitting Tony in the face by accident? I liked the tie-in too and was happy to see Paula but why wasn't Kate's or Jenny's pic there?"Don't know about Kate... but as for Jenny, the official story is she died in a fire. Given the official story it would be inappropriate to put her photo on an Honor Wall. As far as everyone knows, apart from Vance, Gibbs and the Team, she didn't die in the line of duty. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
iamscully |
52. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 4:35 PM EST
"Yes where was Kate's Pic on the wall...went back and re watched epi...and she was not on the wall....?"good point on kate! i didn't even think of that! well, the wall stretched out of the camera shot...i will just pretend kate's picture (and maybe even jenny's, even though she didnt officially die in the line of duty) is somewhere up there too. maybe this is a bar gibbs goes to with tobias or ducky or some of the other older agents...like hoorooblue said, it isnt the type of place the "younger crowd" hangs out in. or maybe gibbs takes his mysterious red-headed dates there! *grin* obviously a place nearby ncis and maybe other fed agencies/police stations, and frequented by law enforcement types, as it has that "line of duty" wall. agree w/ margyw and hoorooblue...vance and/or gibbs should have investigated the langer shooting more thoroughly (i'm sure they examined the crime scene but if it supported lee's statement...they may have been stuck)...but as next week's preview shows, maybe vance HAS been investigating it behind the scenes--hence the gathering of the agents and the "there is a traitor in this room" statement. obviously, vance (and now gibbs) suspect/know that langer wasnt the mole (or maybe they think not the only mole) because they are taking decisive action next week--probably after more weeks of investigation and finding more evidence. Do you find this valuable? |
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iamscully |
53. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 4:43 PM EST
"I have just got caught up on what is going on here and on other sites about last nights story.i liked the story with Dwayne too. wonder if he will be back, but it looks like probably not, if he is off to FLETC, which takes a good bit of time to complete. I had the same thought about whether the agent who helped his dad was gibbs--but gibbs was not in vietnam, as either marine or ncis (previous episode in season one or two, gibbs talking to old director before jenny and makes comment that he was not old enough to have served in vietnam). i suppose it could have been franks--no idea when franks started working for nis/ncis) but that would be an interesting connection! i always like eps with franks--hope he is back again this year! Do you find this valuable? |
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NCISgal4eva92 |
54. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 13 2008, 7:12 PM EST
"Don't know about Kate... but as for Jenny, the official story is she died in a fire. Given the official story it would be inappropriate to put her photo on an Honor Wall. As far as everyone knows, apart from Vance, Gibbs and the Team, she didn't die in the line of duty."oh ok thank you. Do you find this valuable? |
Madchild |
55. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 14 2008, 1:20 AM EST
About Gibbs being the agent in Dwayne's story....I'm more likely to think it was Franks, since gibbs served in Dessert storm, and was too young to have served in Vietnam. For those who know, What does FLETC stand for.....I'm assuming it's a type or training course all wannabe ncis agents have to go through... Do you find this valuable? |
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mugs1985 |
56. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 14 2008, 1:10 PM EST
Does anyone know the name of the song at the end of the episode? It was very fitting.
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Scarecrow4 |
57. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 14 2008, 2:18 PM EST
FLETC stands for Federal Law Enforcement Training Center....And the song at the end of the episode is John Mellencamp "Troubled Land" Do you find this valuable? |
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JosephMesh |
58. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 14 2008, 3:17 PM EST
"(and maybe even jenny's, even though she didnt officially die in the line of duty) is somewhere up there too. "Keep in mind that on paper, Jenny died in the fire at her house (due to smoke inhalation, end of Judgement Day), so as to cover up that she had been killed in action. So officially, line of duty had nothing to do with it, hence why her picture isn't on the wall. Also, to whoever mentioned that Dwayne might be talking about Mike Franks as the NIS agent who exonerated his father, it's good to know I'm not along. Reading through here, I originally got the feeling that I was the only one to get that vibe. Do you find this valuable? |
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chateaurew |
59. RE: Discuss Episode 6.07 Collateral Damage here
Nov 14 2008, 4:32 PM EST
"Does anyone know the name of the song at the end of the episode? It was very fitting."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTLDNcak67w Do you find this valuable? |
